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    Posted On: 28-Sep-2004
    From: "Dave Riley" [Daver.....net]
    Subject: RE: [travel-to-honduras] Re: nytimes article


    Interesting...thanks for the message. It is hard to believe that the once
    sleepy country of Honduras is now gang infested. Solving the problem is
    complex for sure!

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jackie Hansen [mailto:jackie.....org]
    Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:04 AM
    To: travel-to-honduras.....com
    Subject: RE: [travel-to-honduras] Re: nytimes article
    Dear list members,

    The gang problem in Central America, in particular Honduras, is a very real
    and very serious concern for Hondurans. It may not be a grave threat to
    foreigners but it is on the minds of all Hondurans, particularly those
    living in impoverished barrios where maras thrive. My husband is Honduran
    and fled his country to the United States almost nine years ago because of
    gang violence. We are planning to re-locate from Washington, DC to Honduras
    next year to be closer to his family but the threat of gang violence remains
    a concern for us, particularly as we plan to live, at least initially, in a
    gang-affected barrio in El Progreso.

    I am by no means an expert on maras in Central America and the gang problem
    is very complex, but it does stem in part from these factors:
    -poverty and lack of educational and job opportunities
    -availability of weapons
    -us domestic and foreign policy

    In the tumultuous 1980s many Central Americans re-located to the United
    States. Many latino youth became involved with gangs in cities such as Los
    Angeles. Thousands of these youth gang members were incarcerated and, upon
    release, deported back to Central America. They imported the LA-style gang
    culture to Central America. There are now transnational maras with members
    in multiple countries. Mara Salvatrucha, a gang formed in El Salvador by
    former LA gang members deported back to Central America, is active in my
    neighborhood in Washington, DC!

    The gang problem and related violence has spiraled out of control. For my
    husband, in the neighborhood he grew up in you had to be a member of a gang
    simply to ensure a safe route to school. A pacifist, I am constantly shocked
    at the extent of the knowledge him and his family and friends here in the
    United States have about guns, gangs and violence. I am equally shocked to
    hear young nieces and nephews rattle off the names of guns rather than
    reciting the alphabet.

    Hondurans are very rightly frightened of the gangs and want something to be
    done to curb the violence. Governments in the region are indeed taking
    action, but its effectiveness must be questioned. Suspected gang members may
    be arrested and detained simply because they sport "gang-like" tattoos. New
    laws limit civil liberties and allow persons to be detained for a variety of
    reasons in the name of stopping gang violence. Prisons are filled far past
    capacity. Hundreds of prisoners have perished in fires and violence in
    prisons where mara members or suspected members have been detained in La
    Ceiba and San Pedro Sula. These prisons are gang schools, where
    impressionable young people with few opportunities truly become hardened
    criminals. With no rehabilitation and next to no opportunities, what will
    happen when these young people are eventually released from prison? How can
    young people escape the life of gangs and crime when they are not presented
    with alternatives and when even former gang members can be arrested simply
    because they sport tattoos from their former life?

    As a result of the tough new anti-gang laws and implementation by Honduran
    officials, gang members are taking retaliatory actions. Earlier this year,
    about ten persons were beheaded in various parts of the country, their heads
    left with messages to the President warning him to lay-off the anti-gang
    crackdown. Other gang members from throughout Central America have fled to
    southern Mexico, some of them robbing and abusing their countrypeople as
    coyotes traffic them to "El Norte."

    The solution to Honduras' mara problem is no less complex than its roots. To
    address the roots of poverty and social inequality is no easy task. To
    rehabilitate young people and provide opportunities for them to learn, grow
    and flourish requires increased and sustained resources.

    As people living in and traveling to Honduras I would encourage you to learn
    more about this problem and to take action in Honduras or wherever you live.
    Organizations in Honduras are working on this issue and need your support.
    In the United States, Canada and elsewhere, contact local latino community
    organizations and get involved. What Honduras needs is not full prisons, but
    opportunities to learn, to work, to grow and to thrive without the daily
    threat of violence. Honduras does indeed have beautiful beaches, striking
    mountains, raging rivers and much more, but many Hondurans are not able to
    enjoy these natural beauties. As outsiders, we are able to live in relative
    safety and enjoy all the wonderful things Honduras has to offer. Honduras is
    your host, you have a responsibility to invest in its future as well.

    For more information please visit:
    -Casa Alianza- http://www.casa-alianza.org
    -Amnesty International- http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR370082004
    -Related News Articles-
    http://news.onemissingperson.org/HONDURAS-FEB-22-2004-1953e-Honduras-Gangs-L
    eave-Grisly-Warning.html
    http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=522633
    http://www.americas.org/item_14520
    http://www.mcc.org/gallery/04_01/

    Sincerely,

    Jackie Hansen

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Michael Strickland [mailto:michael.....net]
    Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 7:31 PM
    To: travel-to-honduras.....com
    Subject: [travel-to-honduras] Re: nytimes article
    This social phenomenon (for lack of a better word) sounds disturbingly like
    the situation in Brasil (Rio), as depicted in last year's movie CITY OF GOD.
    I just happened to see this movie last weekend, and recommend it to anyone
    interested in this subject. The movie itself was a dramatic presentation
    (based on a true story), but the DVD also includes a pretty shocking 1-hour
    documentary that shows how the Brazilian government is handling (or not
    handling) their gang problem.

    I'd be interested in hearing any firsthand accounts from anyone on this list
    who currently lives in Honduras. In the early 1980s, I heard what a
    dangerous place Honduras was with all of the conflicts between the Contras
    and Sandinistas. But then I spent a year there, and experienced no problems.
    So I'm curious how pervasive this problem with the maras is, from an
    everyday Honduras resident's perspective.












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